Erich Schneider ([info]erich_schneider) wrote,
@ 2008-09-04 21:04:00
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BM2008 post 1
How our various projects turned out:


The Science Dome did a great job of cutting down on wind and dust, which was especially helpful during the three total white-out dust storms we had to endure. However, it did get really hot underneath it. It would've been less hot had we kept more of its doors/vents open all the time; we kept them closed to keep the dust down and to discourage casual browsers. Fortunately we only had to deal with unwanted people in it a few times ([info]clynne had to work extra hard to kick out some hippies with a sense of entitlement during one of said dust storms while I was sleeping - thank you honey!). In the future we should attach a tarp (or Shelter Systems' shade attachement, if we feel like buying it) for extra shade while we're setting it up.

The dome was staked down with two levels of stakes - tent stakes along the bottom rim, and carabiner-bungees between foundation stakes and the first-level ring. It never moved an inch during any of the wind storms. The only structural failure was a break in the cord holding one of the lower attachment points to the ground-level ring, causing one pole to pop out, on the first night. I was able to fix that quite easily.

The hexayurts also did a good job of keeping dust out. Combined with the dome it meant that pretty much the only dust we got in them was the dust we tracked in ourselves. The insulation on Hexayurt 2 also seemed to cut down on some of the noise, meaning it was slightly easier for us to sleep even with the neighboring Playa Surfers camp pumping out really bad music until 9am every day. They did get rather warm, though; running the swamp cooler during the day turned the living yurt into a sauna. We eventually figured out that the way to keep it cool in the morning was to crack the door open at night to let the cool air in, the close it around dawn when one of us got up to go to the bathroom. This gave us a relatively cool space until 10am or so. I saw many hexayurts out there made out of polyisocyanurate foam boards; every single one (even the demo one from the Hexayurt Project) had multiple vents and a mechanical fan system of some kind, which ours did not. So [info]clynne was right that the stated magical thermodynamic properties of the hexayurt were way overblown, but as a fellow Gigsvillain put it, "[I] wanted to believe".

This was Hexayurt 1's third field set-up and it was pretty beat up, so we burned it out there rather than take it home. This made packing the van for the trip home much easier.

Although our living set-up was pretty functional, it took something like 5 hours to get both the dome and the living yurt set up, meaning we didn't finish until after dark with our 3pm arrival time. That's kind of a bummer when all you want is a place to sleep for the night.

We had planned to have spray-paintable stencils with various Hello Science graphics to decorate the dome with; although we got the lettering traced out onto acetate, we didn't actually get any of them cut out completely, so that didn't happen. We also traced the outlines of lettering for a large Hello Science sign to attach to the dome, but we didn't get the letters painted, so didn't put it up (we brought paint out, but I only got an "H" painted in during some dust storm downtime).

As for the wind turbine, in my previous post you can see the videos I took of it actually flying. The timeline went something like this: Saturday we arrived and set up the dome and the living yurt. Sunday we set up the storage yurt. Monday there was a white-out dust storm and we didn't get much additional work accomplished. Tuesday we got the rudder mounting slots cut and assembled the rudder, and also got the chain connecting the motor to the propeller properly sized (which involved enlarging some holes on the mounting plate so we could move the propeller slightly). We also assembled the mast, but didn't raise the thing up because it was getting dark when we were ready to do so. On Wednesday we raised everything up and guyed it in place, only to discover that the rudder seemed to be working incorrectly. Thursday, we took the whole thing down, fixed some problems with the rudder assembly, ran wire from the rotor down the mast so we could connect it to a battery, raised it back up, re-guyed it, and successfully jump-started the propeller from a battery and detected some generated power afterward. This was, of course, with the help of a lot of people. I think the highlight of Burning Man 2008 for me was seeing that propeller turn for the first time when we touched the wires to the batteries. On Friday, during the afternoon the thing started spinning by itself; that's when I took the video I posted. Friday night the wind got even more severe, and the thing was spinning like crazy, until the rudder eventually walked itself out of its mount and fell to the ground next to it, fortunately not hurting anyone or busting anything on our cargo van. This caused the blades to turn parallel to the direction of the wind and the thing didn't spin any more. On Saturday we tried jump-starting the propeller just to see if the motor was OK, and nothing happened. Sunday, we took the whole thing down again, and discovered a break in one of the wires inside the mast; the motor still turned when connected to a battery, so it's OK.

So, the wind turbine was up and functioning for a little more than a day, but it did generate some power. I had said that I would be happy to get it up and spinning and ecstatic if it generated power; needless to say I was walking on air on Thursday afternoon.



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[info]forestcats
2008-09-05 05:45 am UTC (link)
Thank you SO MUCH I was really interested!

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[info]mycroftca
2008-09-05 07:12 am UTC (link)
I've been wondering about putting up a wind turbine to generate at least a little of the house power, but I'm of two minds about getting into that, not to mention that our city might just have an ordinance against it...

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Thermal properties
[info]hexayurt
2008-09-05 12:26 pm UTC (link)
Actually, from the sound of it, what you're dealing with is the Swamp Cooler Cycle

interior conditions are, in sequence
* dry, hot
-> cooler trades dryness for humidity
* moist, cool
-> thermal energy continues to enter the space
* moist, hot
-> welcome to hell, open a window or the door to let the moist, hot air out
* dry, hot

Or you can have sufficient vents that you can run the swamp cooler open field.

Anyway, I"m interested in your comments on thermal performance - in general most people over-vent their hexayurts, not really understanding that energy entering in the form of hot air is bad because it counteracts the cooling effect of the ground in the yurt.

You also may have had insulating floor coverings (rugs) which also make a big difference to thermal performance.

Anyway, if you've got time, let me know, I'm always interested in learning what wasn't working for people!!!

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Re: Thermal properties
[info]clynne
2008-09-20 09:14 pm UTC (link)
We didn't have any insulating floor covering, our floor was just a tarp on the ground.

Our hexayurt was underneath our dome, and the dome itself would heat up, so we think that contributed to the heat inside the hyurt. However, ultimately, we think fans in the roof to vent hot air as it rose would have been a good idea. When the swamp cooler wasn't on, it was dry and hot; when the swamp cooler was on with no venting, it was moist and hot. So some venting of hot air is clearly necessary.

The swamp cooler works fine at home in, say, our house, which is large and venty. The hyurt heats up considerably at home, as well, we had it up for a week in the back yard. We had one small furnace-filter window which we could close when we wanted. The real trick seems to be to leave the door open in order to cool it off at night and then close the door as the day starts to heat up. This was non-ideal if, say, there was a dust storm at night. I think fans would be useful.

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[info]guitarsenal
2008-09-05 06:37 pm UTC (link)
This was my 2nd year camping in a hexayurt at Burning Man. I have gone very basic with my yurt and have cut no holes in it other than the door, and I have only a tarp and a sheet on the floor.

I had no trouble sleeping in the yurt at any time of day. Did it feel air conditioned? No. The real question is: Is it better than the alternatives, and the answer to that is a resounding "YES!" Short of camping in an air conditioned RV there is no beating hexayurt living on the Playa.

Last year my yurt was the only one I saw on the Playa other than the demo yurt at the Man. This year I saw maybe 50 hexayurts. Next year I expect to see hundreds. It's viral!

I was a little worried that we would see yurt failures. The yurts I looked at were set up with various levels of competence, especially in how they were tied down. One guy was only using bungee cords to hold his yurt down. After every dust storm I expected to go out and see that yurt was gone, but it held in there. We also had a couple of hexayurts in our camp with tall doors that did not have classic tension rings to hold them together, and I worried about those untested designs, but they did fine. I saw no destroyed yurts this year.

The only modification I made to my yurt from last year was to add a wood-framed door to allow the door to be nearly four feet tall. This was a great mod that made getting in and out of the yurt much easier, but did lead to a few knots on heads banging into that hard wooden frame top.

I'm not sure how many times you can build a yurt using the Tuff-R / R Max panels. Taking off the tape takes off the silver lining - especially for the R-Max. I hope to get at least one more use out of my hexayurt, but it may be too beat up after that. We will see...

-Tripod

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